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Sunday, May 27, 2012
Pastor Worley's defender
That's church member Stacey Pritchard. Isn't she something? "Yes, he said that, but... he would never want that to be done."
So, he's just lying? Is that what you're saying?
"OK, just to make the short of it, yes, I agree with him. If they can't get the message that that's wrong, then, um, you know..." Yes, clearly concentration camps are the only answer, huh?
And she wants gays and lesbians in concentration camps so they can't reproduce! You think maybe she's a little confused about that whole "birds and bees" thing, or what?
Anderson Cooper looks like he doesn't know what to do with her. How do you interview someone this dense?
"You see, it's all taken out of context..." Right, they meant concentration camps in a good way. :)
And of course she believes that adulterers should be put to death. Not that it would "really happen," though. Damn that separation of church and state!
Just that one church has seats for 1200 people! Think about that. Do you think she's the smart one of the congregation, chosen to speak for the group? Heh, heh. Imagine that!
But I have to question Cooper about one thing: all this seems very Christian to me. Clearly, she agrees. Of course, people are just "harping, harping, harping" on that electric fence. Hard to believe, isn't it?
Oh, and look at the expression on her face, how she raises her eyebrows, skeptically, when he says, "If some people were talking about putting Jews behind electrified fences,... I imagine that would be of concern to you." Heh, heh. Very clearly, that's exactly what she thinks should be done with Jews, too.
But remember, this is a pastor who "speaks the word of God." (And you worship that son of a bitch?)
Oh, if you didn't hear Pastor Worley's exact words, they're here.
8 comments:
Jeff
said...
WCG,
I have been monitoring this story for the past week.
I have commented a couple of times here that I have a suspicion (excuse me while I put on my tinfoil hat) that somewhere, deep within the bowels of one of those smarter-than-us right-wing "think tanks," they have planned a "final solution" to the "liberal problem."
Question: With Pastor Worley's comments, is the far right starting to tip their hand? My Jedi instincts tell me this wasn't by accident; nobody on the right (tinfoil hat time again) runs this kind of smack without say-so from somebody very high up.
I keep hearing stories about so-called "FEMA camps" being secretly built and then I listen to the rhetoric coming from the right-wing...
Honestly, Jeff, I think you need to put away the tinfoil hat and not rely so much on Jedi instincts. :)
Seriously, can you imagine Pastor Worley and his supporters as part of some big conspiracy? What, along with the Three Stooges and the two idiots in Dumb and Dumber?
The Three Stooges and the two idiots from Dumb and Dumber? I thought the Republican Convention wasn't until August. :D
I hope you're right and I hope I'm wrong. But the increasingly hostile, even violent, rhetoric coming from everyone on the right from Rush to "Jody P." in the LJS has got to be monitored carefully. Words often lead to actions.
I saw this clip first on another site and found it very depressing and disturbing. This woman is very stupid. I'd hate to think that there are millions of people like her. It's just creepy to picture people like that are all around me, like some kind of zombie invasion. And people like her all turned to the Bible for their source of knowledge. They need to study to Bible more closely. It's full of inconsistencies. See:
And these are just a few based on conflicting statements. If you go deeper, it's obvious that the Bible can't be trusted for any kind of guidance at all.
Ignorant people cherry pick from the Bible to attack what they personally hate. It's just a rationalization. It's their way of saying God is on their side. History has taught us God was on the wrong side too many times.
More than ever I believe that statement "religion is the opiate of the masses." I used to think it meant they were addicted to religion like opium. But now I wonder if it means they are as delusional about reality as opium users.
I never really used to mind religion, it was mild and inoffensive and people who believed in a god made me feel a bit embarrased for them the same way I think most adults would if they ran into an adult who truly believed in Santa Claus. It's only fairly recently that I've been exposed to the (mostly US) people who say these kind of things and use religion as a vehicle of hate. Let's just say that my reluctance to challenge anyones beliefs has withered on the vine. I'll go into bat all the time now and I won't let even a good friend get away with the 'I have to think x/y/z wrong because that is what I have been taught to believe'. I may not change their minds but I'm not too timid to clearly state that I think anybody who lets a book form their views even when their instinctive reactions tend in another direction, is wrong and possibly harming society. Basically the only moral in the bible I like is 'do unto others'. If Christian truely followed this then the world would be a better place for us all.
Jim, if these people were rational enough to be swayed by inconsistencies, they wouldn't be a problem in the first place. Others might be swayed by that, but not Pastor Worley's supporters.
I do like your final point, though. That's an interesting thought about religion as the opiate of the masses.
M1nks, that's the way religion seemed to be when I was a kid. I don't ever remember believing what everyone else I knew apparently believed, but it didn't seem to matter much. People paid it lip service, but no one seemed to take it seriously, as far as I could tell.
These days, there are evangelicals,... fundamentalists,... "born again" Christians just everywhere. And it's become frighteningly political. I didn't expect this future, not at all.
But on the bright side, atheists have come out of the closet, and we seem to be growing rapidly in numbers. So something good has come of it, at least (if not necessarily enough to offset the bad).
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8 comments:
WCG,
I have been monitoring this story for the past week.
I have commented a couple of times here that I have a suspicion (excuse me while I put on my tinfoil hat) that somewhere, deep within the bowels of one of those smarter-than-us right-wing "think tanks," they have planned a "final solution" to the "liberal problem."
Question: With Pastor Worley's comments, is the far right starting to tip their hand? My Jedi instincts tell me this wasn't by accident; nobody on the right (tinfoil hat time again) runs this kind of smack without say-so from somebody very high up.
I keep hearing stories about so-called "FEMA camps" being secretly built and then I listen to the rhetoric coming from the right-wing...
...I'm not very big on coincidences.
Honestly, Jeff, I think you need to put away the tinfoil hat and not rely so much on Jedi instincts. :)
Seriously, can you imagine Pastor Worley and his supporters as part of some big conspiracy? What, along with the Three Stooges and the two idiots in Dumb and Dumber?
The Three Stooges and the two idiots from Dumb and Dumber? I thought the Republican Convention wasn't until August. :D
I hope you're right and I hope I'm wrong. But the increasingly hostile, even violent, rhetoric coming from everyone on the right from Rush to "Jody P." in the LJS has got to be monitored carefully. Words often lead to actions.
I saw this clip first on another site and found it very depressing and disturbing. This woman is very stupid. I'd hate to think that there are millions of people like her. It's just creepy to picture people like that are all around me, like some kind of zombie invasion. And people like her all turned to the Bible for their source of knowledge. They need to study to Bible more closely. It's full of inconsistencies. See:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.html
And these are just a few based on conflicting statements. If you go deeper, it's obvious that the Bible can't be trusted for any kind of guidance at all.
Ignorant people cherry pick from the Bible to attack what they personally hate. It's just a rationalization. It's their way of saying God is on their side. History has taught us God was on the wrong side too many times.
More than ever I believe that statement "religion is the opiate of the masses." I used to think it meant they were addicted to religion like opium. But now I wonder if it means they are as delusional about reality as opium users.
I never really used to mind religion, it was mild and inoffensive and people who believed in a god made me feel a bit embarrased for them the same way I think most adults would if they ran into an adult who truly believed in Santa Claus. It's only fairly recently that I've been exposed to the (mostly US) people who say these kind of things and use religion as a vehicle of hate. Let's just say that my reluctance to challenge anyones beliefs has withered on the vine. I'll go into bat all the time now and I won't let even a good friend get away with the 'I have to think x/y/z wrong because that is what I have been taught to believe'. I may not change their minds but I'm not too timid to clearly state that I think anybody who lets a book form their views even when their instinctive reactions tend in another direction, is wrong and possibly harming society. Basically the only moral in the bible I like is 'do unto others'. If Christian truely followed this then the world would be a better place for us all.
Jeff, I think you've just slandered the Three Stooges. :)
I agree with you about the rhetoric, but the danger isn't in some vast conspiracy. That's the tinfoil hat part, I'd say.
Jim, if these people were rational enough to be swayed by inconsistencies, they wouldn't be a problem in the first place. Others might be swayed by that, but not Pastor Worley's supporters.
I do like your final point, though. That's an interesting thought about religion as the opiate of the masses.
M1nks, that's the way religion seemed to be when I was a kid. I don't ever remember believing what everyone else I knew apparently believed, but it didn't seem to matter much. People paid it lip service, but no one seemed to take it seriously, as far as I could tell.
These days, there are evangelicals,... fundamentalists,... "born again" Christians just everywhere. And it's become frighteningly political. I didn't expect this future, not at all.
But on the bright side, atheists have come out of the closet, and we seem to be growing rapidly in numbers. So something good has come of it, at least (if not necessarily enough to offset the bad).
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